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#1sirfizzwhizz
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Vishanti going all out war in Loki and Strange is accessing every major artifact he has to help win. Loki is just trying to bully what he wants from Vishanti and Strange.
So who would likely win?
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#2Chimeroid
Vishanti are too much. Even with GoS feats, Loki is very limited. people don't seem to understand the rules and limitations that being the Skald comes with. Loki has the power to start a narrative, but, once he does, he is also a 'slave' of that narrative himself.
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#3 Edited By rajjarsalt
Loki just banished Nyx so it's a gg
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#4blackspidey2099
iKoL stomps
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#5dami24434
Loki stomp them for fun
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#6dami24434
@chimeroid: not really, it's you who don't get it, Loki can directly force the narrative on anyone ,he isn't a slave to anyone unless they have similar narrative powers. Look at what enchantress did to Thor using story magic and Loki is way above that.
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#7Chimeroid
@dami24434: Loki specifically explained that once the narrative is set, he is a part of the narrative as well.
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#8 Edited By shirso
Loki trapped Pre Retcon Beyonder in a narrative, he probably stomps.
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#9 Edited By rajjarsalt
@chimeroid: It was recently revealed in Dr Strange by Baron Mordo that all magic is story magic. This benefits Loki considerably in the magic world.
Given Loki can exit the narrative and enter it again, him being part of it isn’t a game changer, and the battle doesn’t necessarily have to be narrative hacks anyway.
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#10TheWatcherKing
Loki slaps
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#11Chimeroid
@rajjarsalt said:
@chimeroid: It was recently revealed in Dr Strange by Baron Mordo that all magic is story magic. This benefits Loki considerably in the magic world.
Given Loki can exit the narrative and enter it again, him being part of it isn’t a game changer, and the battle doesn’t necessarily have to be narrative hacks anyway.
Yeah, it's very complicated actually, and i love the idea of all magic being a story you tell to the universe. I also love that, up until very recently, Loki was the only one on Midgard who could use magic without paying the price.
Anyway, it depends on the narrative he chooses. And also, it's important to notice that he can't choose the resolution of the narrative.
Right now, he is making a story for Thor, but the story isn't over or written. Thor could fail. Loki could have died against the blond Beyonder.
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#12dami24434
@chimeroid said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@chimeroid: It was recently revealed in Dr Strange by Baron Mordo that all magic is story magic. This benefits Loki considerably in the magic world.
Given Loki can exit the narrative and enter it again, him being part of it isn’t a game changer, and the battle doesn’t necessarily have to be narrative hacks anyway.
Yeah, it's very complicated actually, and i love the idea of all magic being a story you tell to the universe. I also love that, up until very recently, Loki was the only one on Midgard who could use magic without paying the price.
Anyway, it depends on the narrative he chooses. And also, it's important to notice that he can't choose the resolution of the narrative.
Right now, he is making a story for Thor, but the story isn't over or written. Thor could fail. Loki could have died against the blond Beyonder.
well there's also Loki's rune magic to consider without even counting the narrative aspect
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#13WastelandMan
Whatever works for the plot at the time.
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#14ProfessorRespect
@chimeroid said:
Vishanti are too much. Even with GoS feats, Loki is very limited. people don't seem to understand the rules and limitations that being the Skald comes with. Loki has the power to start a narrative, but, once he does, he is also a 'slave' of that narrative himself.
This + plot isn't a thing in threads.
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#15jay_z94
I reckon Loki
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#16Mage101
@professorrespect said:
@chimeroid said:
Vishanti are too much. Even with GoS feats, Loki is very limited. people don't seem to understand the rules and limitations that being the Skald comes with. Loki has the power to start a narrative, but, once he does, he is also a 'slave' of that narrative himself.
This + plot isn't a thing in threads.
Lol
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#17Mage101
@jay_z94 said:
I reckon Loki
What has Loki done to be superior? His best feat is trapping a beyonder in a narrative and that didn't fully work, we can even say that blue marvel destroying the body of that beyonder is more impressive, to add salt to injury, said beyonder almost killed Loki and is featless with the exception of the mentioned feats. I guess there's a story magic wank here but Isn't every magic from story magic or something like that, Loki couldn't undo enchantress magic on Thor which proves that he has limitations and isn't on that level. If we want to go to the route of story magic shenanigans then a lot of DC characters would solo beings on the vishanti level because of story magic that's superior to what Loki has shown.
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#18jay_z94
@mage101 said:
@jay_z94 said:
I reckon Loki
What has Loki done to be superior? His best feat is trapping a beyonder in a narrative and that didn't fully work, we can even say that blue marvel destroying the body of that beyonder is more impressive, to add salt to injury, said beyonder almost killed Loki and is featless with the exception of the mentioned feats. I guess there's a story magic wank here but Isn't every magic from story magic or something like that, Loki couldn't undo enchantress magic on Thor which proves that he has limitations and isn't on that level. If we want to go to the route of story magic shenanigans then a lot of DC characters would solo beings on the vishanti level because of story magic that's superior to what Loki has shown.
Tbf, I don't know enough about either to have a debate lol
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#19 Edited By rajjarsalt
@mage101 said:
@jay_z94 said:
I reckon Loki
What has Loki done to be superior? His best feat is trapping a beyonder in a narrative and that didn't fully work, we can even say that blue marvel destroying the body of that beyonder is more impressive, to add salt to injury, said beyonder almost killed Loki and is featless with the exception of the mentioned feats. I guess there's a story magic wank here but Isn't every magic from story magic or something like that, Loki couldn't undo enchantress magic on Thor which proves that he has limitations and isn't on that level. If we want to go to the route of story magic shenanigans then a lot of DC characters would solo beings on the vishanti level because of story magic that's superior to what Loki has shown.
Literally the caption right above its head getting blown off lmfao
Was that Loki's fault? It was!
It should be apparent to everyone that Blue Marvel wouldn't be able to blow a Beyonder's head off without context.
As for Enchantress, it's rather obvious that wasn't her own power or skill.
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#20Mage101
@rajjarsalt said:
@mage101 said:
@jay_z94 said:
I reckon Loki
What has Loki done to be superior? His best feat is trapping a beyonder in a narrative and that didn't fully work, we can even say that blue marvel destroying the body of that beyonder is more impressive, to add salt to injury, said beyonder almost killed Loki and is featless with the exception of the mentioned feats. I guess there's a story magic wank here but Isn't every magic from story magic or something like that, Loki couldn't undo enchantress magic on Thor which proves that he has limitations and isn't on that level. If we want to go to the route of story magic shenanigans then a lot of DC characters would solo beings on the vishanti level because of story magic that's superior to what Loki has shown.
Literally the caption right above its head getting blown off lmfao
Was that Loki's fault? It was!
It should be apparent to everyone that Blue Marvel wouldn't be able to blow a Beyonder's head off without context.
As for Enchantress, it's rather obvious that wasn't her own power or skill.
Wow! I'm so impressed. Is this supposed to impress me or what because the enchantress stuff is still the same and the beyonder that's supposed to be limited limited almost killed Loki, also it doesn't say if what Loki did made blue marvel perform such a feat, stop making things up.
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#21 Edited By BigBaby
Vishanti solos. If Loki does resort to narrative manipulation, I personally think the same thing would happen with the Beyonder case: they would probably break the narrative. The only option is for Loki to use banishment, like done to Nyx, but that's easier said than done when Strange is there too.
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#22 Edited By mutantheroic
The narrative debates are ridiculous, anyone who uses narrative as a power or uses any kind of power are always part of a narrative anyway as none of them have true free will, as true free will is illogical.
When anyone in Marvel uses a power, they observe the after-effects of their own doing, and are influenced by that in turn. So when one says "Loki is part of a narrative when he uses narrative" it's a nothing statement as this virtually applies to anyone.
Not sure why we still have a culture of eating up a lot of the pseudo-intellectual nonsense from comics without any critical thinking.
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#23EcoBlitz
@mutantheroic: cry
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